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		<title>Awards for Sale</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/22/awards-for-sale/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Conrad Saam, Sr. Marketing Manager</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Need another award for your law firm?  Buy a plaque.
Seriously.
According to Patrick Byers at the Responsible Marketing Blog, one can be had from the US Local Business Association.  Click through to read the misleading email here:  Awards for Sale:  Not a rewarding experience.  (For the record, Avvo verifies all awards [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need another award for your law firm?  Buy a plaque.</p>
<p>Seriously.</p>
<p>According to Patrick Byers at the <a href="http://responsiblemarketing.com/blog/">Responsible Marketing Blog</a>, one can be had from the US Local Business Association.  Click through to read the misleading email here:  <a href="http://responsiblemarketing.com/blog/?p=457">Awards for Sale:  Not a rewarding experience</a>.  (For the record, Avvo verifies all awards submitted to the site to ensure they are more than a snazzy piece of mahogany with gold writing.)  </p>
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		<title>Throwing your computer out the window is not an option&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/22/throwing-your-computer-out-the-window-is-not-an-option/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cristin Carey, Customer Care Manager</dc:creator>
		
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&#8230;trust me. I&#8217;ve been there and while there are many days where I find myself on the verge of dropping my computer off the side of the building because I can&#8217;t find that *one* file I need, my life (and work) without a computer is unimaginable.  I have a feeling there are many lawyers [...]]]></description>
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<p>&#8230;trust me. I&#8217;ve been there and while there are many days where I find myself on the verge of dropping my computer off the side of the building because I can&#8217;t find that *one* file I need, my life (and work) without a computer is unimaginable.  I have a feeling there are many lawyers out there who can relate. So we need to figure out a way to take control of our data and make it work for us in a way that allows us to focus on our real work.</p>
<p>David Leffler over at the <a href="http://www.abanet.org/genpractice/magazine/2008/jun/beingsolo.html">APA GP/Solo blog</a> reviews <a href="http://bitliteracy.com/">Bit Literacy</a> - something we are familiar with here at <a title="Lawyer Directory" href="http://www.avvo.com/">Avvo</a>.  Bit Literacy is a book by Mark Hurst which teaches us how to manage the &#8220;bits&#8221; of information we come into contact with each day.  Emails, digital photos, word documents; if its information on a computer, it&#8217;s most likely a bit.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Solo attorneys do not have an IT department to help them manage all of their digital detritus. More often than not they do not have a secretary, either. So it is even more important that you get a handle on your digital bits before they overwhelm you—throwing your computer out the window is not an option.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The idea here is to manage all our data in a way that makes it useful to us and helps us to be more productive.  Managing data (especially email) correctly and efficienty is just as important for tech companies and lawyers as it is for anyone whose business depends on electronic communication in anyway.  I know these concepts have helped me to manage a sometimes overflowing <a title="avvo contact us" href="http://www.avvo.com/support/contact_us">Customer Care inbox</a>.  Check out David&#8217;s post and see if it can help you too.</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t Call It a Comeback</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/18/dont-call-it-a-comeback/</link>
		<comments>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/18/dont-call-it-a-comeback/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shalini</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Tony, Karen, Hoa and Nick - we are back - bigger and badder than ever.  Next step is to have Google recognize that we are virus free.  You may still see the message, &#8220;this site may harm your computer&#8221;, because it may take Google a bit of time to complete their review of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Tony, Karen, Hoa and Nick - we are back - <a title="mama_llcoolj" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mama_Said_Knock_You_Out_(song)" target="_blank">bigger and badder</a> than ever.  Next step is to have Google recognize that we are virus free.  You may still see the message, &#8220;this site may harm your computer&#8221;, because it may take Google a bit of time to complete their review of our site.</p>
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		<title>Illinois - Public Lawyer Records to Remain Inaccessible</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/16/illinois-public-lawyer-records-to-remain-inaccessible/</link>
		<comments>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/16/illinois-public-lawyer-records-to-remain-inaccessible/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh King, VP of Business Development and General Counsel</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The Illinois Supreme Court, in a one-line ruling, rejected Avvo&#8217;s application for the Illinois Master Roll of attorneys.  We are, as you might expect, surprised and disappointed in this outcome.  Although we have the vast majority of Illinois lawyer records already, we were hoping that, with the ARDC&#8217;s cooperation, we could offer Illinois [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Illinois Supreme Court, in a one-line ruling, <a href="http://www.sj-r.com/homepage/x390632195/State-Supreme-Court-keeps-lawyer-list-secret">rejected</a> Avvo&#8217;s application for the Illinois Master Roll of attorneys.  We are, as you might expect, surprised and disappointed in this outcome.  Although we have the vast majority of Illinois lawyer records already, we were hoping that, with the ARDC&#8217;s cooperation, we could offer Illinois consumers and attorneys the complete picture of all Illinois licensed attorneys.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, we respect the court&#8217;s decision, and we&#8217;ll go on providing the service in Illinois in its current form.  If you are an Illinois lawyer and you can&#8217;t find your profile on <a href="http://www.avvo.com/all-law/il.html">Avvo</a> drop us a <a href="http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/98101-wa-joshua-king-32609.html">note</a> and we will manually create it.  Just be sure to give us your name, as that&#8217;s the only way we can get the info from the ARDC <img src='http://avvoblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Avvo Blog Has Been Hacked</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/15/avvo-blog-has-been-hacked/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shalini</dc:creator>
		
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note to let our readers know that we are aware of &#8220;this site may be harmful&#8221; Google message.  We are working on ridding the site of the virus.  Stay tuned . . .</p>
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		<title>More Support for Avvo&#8217;s Quest for Open Records</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/15/more-support-for-avvos-quest-for-open-records/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh King, VP of Business Development and General Counsel</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Great support in the Madison &#038; St. Clair (IL) Record newspapers for Avvo&#8217;s petition to the Illinois Supreme Court for attorney licensing and disciplinary records.  From the editorial:
&#8220;Giving the list to Avvo would &#8220;lead to similar requests for this information from&#8230; other entities that wish to provide information regarding attorneys to the general public,&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great <a href="http://www.madisonrecord.com/arguments/213690-go-avvo">support</a> in the Madison &#038; St. Clair (IL) <em>Record</em> newspapers for <a href="www.avvo.com">Avvo&#8217;s</a> <a href="http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/08/the-illinois-ardc-responds-to-avvos-petition/">petition to the Illinois Supreme Court</a> for attorney licensing and disciplinary records.  From the editorial:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Giving the list to Avvo would &#8220;lead to similar requests for this information from&#8230; other entities that wish to provide information regarding attorneys to the general public,&#8221; wrote ARDC attorney Rosalyn Kaplan in a brief opposing the company&#8217;s request.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s supposed to be a bad thing?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I was wondering the same thing.  From the looks of the poll on the editorial page, over two-thirds of readers agree that the ARDC should release the information to Avvo.</p>
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		<title>Avvo Superhero</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/14/avvo-superhero/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shalini</dc:creator>
		
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Our ears were burning last week, when we learned that Avvo was the subject of heated debate on the ABA SoloSez message boards.  We were heartened to see this impassioned defense from Jonathan Stein on a variety of issues:

Lawyer Ratings:

Ratings are the name of the      game in every profession. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left"><a href="http://avvoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/peter_griffin_family_guy.jpg" title="Peter v Chicken Poster Print"></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://avvoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/peter_griffin_family_guy.jpg" title="Peter v Chicken Poster Print"><img src="http://avvoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/peter_griffin_family_guy.jpg" alt="Peter v Chicken Poster Print" /></a></p>
<p>Our ears were burning last week, when we learned that Avvo was the subject of heated debate on the <a href="http://www.abanet.org/soloseznet/index.html" title="solo_practitioners_marketing">ABA SoloSez message boards</a>.  We were heartened to see this impassioned defense from <a href="http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/95758-ca-jonathan-stein-370926.html" title="california_personal_injury">Jonathan Stein</a> on a variety of issues:</p>
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<li><strong>Lawyer Ratings</strong>:</li>
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<blockquote><p>Ratings are the name of the      game in every profession. What do you think JD Power does for a living? Do      they sit around and play tiddly winks all day?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No. Of course not. They RATE PEOPLE! Really, I promise. Go listen to some car commercial some day. Tylenol - the choice of more pediatricians. What is that? A RATING! Crest - 4 out of 5 dentists recommend it. Guess what? We call that a rating. President of the United Freaking States? Rated. Doctors?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Indian Chiefs? Teachers? All rated. Toilets? Rated. Sanitary napkins? Rated.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>(Really, I checked.)</p></blockquote>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers" title="free_legal_guidance">Avvo Answers</a></li>
</ul>
<blockquote><p>By the way, for those of you too stubborn to visit Avvo because you are afraid they will start to track you or send out black helicopters, spend a few minutes there. There is a question and answer section. And, unlike other sites, the answers are not all &#8220;Call me for a free consultation and I can help you.&#8221; There are real substantive answers. In addition, they are launching Legal Guides where attorneys write information and consumers can read it - at no charge. Oh my gosh - education for consumer that is free to the attorney and free to the consumer. And it doesn&#8217;t matter what your rating is.</p></blockquote>
<p align="justify">&nbsp;</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Martindale-Hubbell</strong></li>
</ul>
<blockquote><p>By the way, speaking of M-H, and I was before, how many consumers use it? Oh right, they use lawyers.com. Really? Funny, when I check for lawyers, the people who show up are the people who PAID TO BE THERE! Oh, and the M-H website never explains how they determine their ratings. I know, based on reviews by other attorneys. But, HOW? Explain it to me and use small words because I aint that bright! Interestingly, a law firm receives the rating of its HIGHEST RATED partner. So 10 CVs in a law firm as partners and 1 AV and the firm is rated AV. That seems fair, sure. And Peter Griffin seems svelt.</p></blockquote>
<p align="left">The image above is to refresh your memory as to whether Peter is svelte.  <a href="http://www.jonathangstein.com" title="california_personal_injury_lawyer">Jonathan</a>, your root beer is on the way.</p>
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		<title>Advice to Parties Appearing on Judge Judy</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/10/insights-gained-after-watching-judge-judy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shalini</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a confession to make: I find Judge Judy very entertaining. And, apparently I&#8217;m not alone.  The following are tips based on the most common errors I&#8217;ve observed on the show:



 If you are a deadbeat dad, do not come before Judge Judy with the excuse that you often buy diapers, food, toys, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left">I have a confession to make: I find Judge Judy very entertaining. And, apparently I&#8217;m <a href="http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6577093.html?industryid=47173" title="Judge_Judy_tops_ratings">not alone</a>.  The following are tips based on the most common errors I&#8217;ve observed on the show:</p>
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<li> If you are a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadbeat_parent" title="child_support_enforcement">deadbeat dad</a>, <strong>do not</strong> come before Judge Judy with the excuse that you often buy diapers, food, toys, or clothes for your children.  Similarly, do not offer that you give your <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_mama" title="child_support_enforcement">baby mama</a> money for your kids whenever she asks.  Judge Judy will simply remind you that this does not relieve you of your <a href="http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/pubs/2005/handbook_on_cse.pdf" title="child_support_enforcement">legal obligations for child support</a>.</li>
<li>If you are being sued for repayment of a loan, <strong>do not</strong> do Judge Judy&#8217;s job for her and declare that what you were given was a gift.  Judge Judy wants you to merely describe the circumstances surrounding the exchange, so she can divine the<a href="http://outlines.law.uvic.ca/courses/property/property_9900fall_adjin-tettey_outline_pete.htm" title="gift_loan_dispute"> donor&#8217;s intent</a>.</li>
<li>Different states have different laws regarding engagement rings.  Unfortunately, in many jurisdictions (e.g. <a href="http://oc-divorce.typepad.com/california_divorce_and_fa/2006/02/engagement_ring.html" title="california_engagement_ring_law">California</a>), an engagement ring that accompanies a proposal is considered to be a gift given in the contemplation of marriage.  So ladies, you are <strong>not automatically entitled</strong> to keep your engagement ring - even if your betrothed is the one who balks at marriage.</li>
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		<title>New Jersey, Connecticut and Maryland</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/10/new-jersey-connecticut-and-maryland/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Britton, CEO</dc:creator>
		
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What do these fine Northeastern states have in common?  
Well, Avvo launched its service in all of them today.  We are very excited about this launch because it increases our coverage to 19 markets (18 states plus Washington, DC) and 80% of the practicing lawyers in the United States.  It also gives [...]]]></description>
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<p>What do these fine Northeastern states have in common?  </p>
<p>Well, Avvo launched its service in all of them today.  We are very excited about this launch because it increases our coverage to 19 markets (18 states plus Washington, DC) and 80% of the practicing lawyers in the United States.  It also gives us great coverage in the Northeast, adding to the already-launched states of New York, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.  Geez, it sounds like the first Constitutional Convention!</p>
<p>Here are some links to:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.avvo.com/all-law/nj.html">Top Rated New Jersey Lawyers</a><br />
<a href="http://www.avvo.com/all-law/ct.html">Top Rated Connecticut Lawyers</a><br />
<a href="http://www.avvo.com/all-law/md.html">Top Rated Maryland Lawyers</a></p>
<p>For all of the lawyers in our new states, as I have said many times before, we love your feedback.  So, whether you think Avvo is great or not-so-great, please let us know.  It is the only way we can improve.</p>
<p>The Avvo train keeps rolling . . . <img src='http://avvoblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>The Illinois ARDC Responds to Avvo&#8217;s Petition</title>
		<link>http://avvoblog.com/2008/07/08/the-illinois-ardc-responds-to-avvos-petition/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh King, VP of Business Development and General Counsel</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[I received the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission&#8217;s response to Avvo&#8217;s Illinois Supreme Court petition yesterday.  Although I had hoped that the ARDC would simply ask the court for guidance in dealing with the apparent disagreement between public records law and the ARDC&#8217;s 28-year-old guidelines for providing attorney records, the ARDC went to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission&#8217;s<a href="http://avvoblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/ardc-response.pdf"> response</a> to Avvo&#8217;s <a href="http://avvoblog.com/2008/06/11/avvo-and-illinois-attorney-records/">Illinois Supreme Court petition </a>yesterday.  Although I had hoped that the ARDC would simply ask the court for guidance in dealing with the apparent disagreement between public records law and the ARDC&#8217;s 28-year-old guidelines for providing attorney records, the ARDC went to some lengths to defend its guidelines and take issue with what Avvo is doing.  I&#8217;m not entirely sure why - the guidelines in question have survived both the advent of the internet and the explosion of openness in most state open records laws, so there surely would be no shame in inquiring whether the policy is still relevant, let alone whether it complies with the current state of Illinois law on public access to judicial records.</p>
<p>The guidelines in question, you see, generally prohibit the dissemination of the Attorney Roll to non-Illinois entities or for most commercial uses (for-profit Illinois CLE providers are exempt).  Putting aside the only-for-Illinois portion of the guidelines (a restriction that surely doesn&#8217;t meet the standards of the federal Constitution&#8217;s Privileges and Immunities clause), the ARDC has focused on Avvo&#8217;s status as a commercial entity and Avvo&#8217;s use of the attorney records.  Along the way, the ARDC has attempted to understand how Avvo works.  Unfortunately, it hasn’t done so via the lens of the consumer.  So let&#8217;s clear up some misconceptions the folks in Springfield hold:</p>
<p><strong>Avvo Claimed Profiles:</strong>  In an effort to &#8220;understand and advise the court on the nature of Avvo&#8217;s service,&#8221; the ARDC searched Avvo for the names of 10 specific Illinois attorneys, 5 of whom were government officials or lawyers.  Unsurprisingly, none of them had claimed profiles.  What&#8217;s frustrating about this type of &#8220;name&#8221; search is that it is only an ancillary way of using Avvo.  The primary benefit of Avvo is that it allows a consumer to conduct a search by geography and type of problem rather than by lawyer name.  If the ARDC wants to understand how Avvo works for a consumer, it should search for, say, <a href="http://www.avvo.com/bankruptcy-debt-law/il/chicago.html">Chicago bankruptcy lawyers</a>.  It should also come as no surprise that Avvo doesn&#8217;t spend its data mining resources on filling out the backgrounds of government lawyers, as consumers aren&#8217;t typically looking to hire state&#8217;s counsel.</p>
<p><strong>Number of Illinois Lawyers on Avvo:</strong>  I have estimated that Avvo has profiles for 95-99% of licensed Illinois attorneys, but that we (and consumers, and at least some number of lawyers in Illinois) want to make sure Avvo contains a complete record of Illinois attorneys.  In its filing, the ARDC points out that a search of IL lawyers on Avvo only yields 66,000 results when the ARDC&#8217;s records show 85,000 licensed attorneys.  I&#8217;m at a loss to understand how this line of argument is relevant to the issues at hand, but I must dispel the impression it leaves that Avvo has been less-than-diligent in the task of extracting what it can from the ARDC&#8217;s public website.</p>
<p>First of the all, the ARDC is again working from the mindset of the lawyer, not the consumer.  Avvo&#8217;s search results are based on geographic presence, not state of licensing, so the 66,000 lawyers we show in Illinois are those with a business address in the state, regardless of the state that licensed them.  It’s a safe bet, of course, that the vast majority of those 66,000 lawyers are licensed in Illinois.  However, attorneys with Illinois addresses who are licensed in more than one state - and who haven&#8217;t claimed their Avvo profiles - will have multiple profiles that show up in an Illinois search, somewhat inflating the actual number of individual attorneys we have records for.  So how many of the ARDC’s 85,000 lawyers are in resident in Illinois?  According to ARDC records, 61,500.  Now, I’m not sure of the exact number of multiple profiles we have in IL, but with 66,000 Avvo profiles in IL against the ARDC’s record of 61,500 Illinois-licensed lawyers resident in-state, I’m sticking with my estimate that we have profiles for 95-99% of IL lawyers.</p>
<p>As a side note, Avvo’s 66,000 number also doesn’t include deceased, disbarred, inactive or judicial profiles, as consumers aren’t looking to hire such lawyers.  However, you can find these profiles when searching by name (e.g., <a href="http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/abraham-lincoln-1031529.html">Abraham Lincoln</a> and <a href="http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/barack-obama-1106229.html">Barack Obama</a>).</p>
<p><strong>Commercial Use:</strong>  First of all, Avvo may be a commercial entity (i.e., ultimately interested in making money), but our use of the data is not commercial - we&#8217;re not selling it; we&#8217;re trying to make attorney licensing data as widely available as possible so consumers have more options and guidance in choosing a lawyer.  Consumers can check a lawyer’s name on the ARDC website, but they can’t use it to find a lawyer in the first place.  Avvo is using the data in a way that makes it far more accessible and useful to Illinois consumers.</p>
<p>Furthermore, even if the use were commercial, what of it?  All sorts of public records are used for commercial purposes – data from tax records to court decisions is aggregated and often flatly sold for commercial gain.  There is nothing about attorney licensing and disciplinary records that makes them worthy of more protection than the myriad categories of public records already being used for commercial purposes.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the public is served by freer access to public records.  Avvo’s is but one of the many novel uses that open access and the broad dissemination and aggregation offered by the internet make possible.  We hope that the Illinois Supreme Court sees its way clear to finding that these public records should be freely accessible.</p>
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